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Re: Gulfstream to be auctioned off
December 29, 2010
9:47 pm
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In an old report (but new to me) it sounds as if January 4th will decide Gulfstream's fate.  If the auction doesn't get them operating cash, they will shut down.

December 30, 2010
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Wow...this will be interesting to see how it develops.  Weird...as I was typing this I actually had to take a call from them!

December 31, 2010
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There is some expectation that current large shareholders, who are also large creditors, will buy the assets but the court may decide their bid isn't credible. However, it may be the only one, in which case the company would probably ask for forbearance while they wheel out Plan B.

Raytheon Credit is the only big outside creditor with much at stake in the proceeding. How things go may depend on what Raytheon thinks the market for used 1900's is.

If the existing shareholders/creditors succeed, there may be an interesting play in the stock, which is currently selling at one-tenth of a cent per share (you could buy 100,000 shares for $100!).  The existing guys have a reason to keep the stock alive, even if it is greatly diluted.  That tenth or a cent could turn into a couple of cents.

As always, I reserve the right to be wrong here.  :3some:

December 31, 2010
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Is this in any way insider information?  If I go buy, say, 100,000 shares, would I be doing something illegal?

January 1, 2011
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Buying the stock is legal.  I have no insider information. Most of what I posted is public, a little bit is inference. See:

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While legal, buying Gulfstream stock may be crazy; the chance of losing your whole investment is a really small fraction less than 100%. 

HNY to all.

January 1, 2011
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MasseyBrown wrote:the chance of losing your whole investment is a really small fraction less than 100%. 

Yeah, I didn't buy any.  Their balance sheet looks like someone slit their wrists on it!  The sale of assets will be terribly deflated because of the economy and there won't be enough to settle primary creditors, let alone secondary.  Stock holders (3rd in line following chapter 11 bankruptcy and subsequent liquidation) won't stand a chance.  My prediction: bye bye Gulfstream.  They'll go belly-up, which means some of their creditors might go belly-up, too.  And after all the bank failures of the last couple years, the FDIC is already in crisis of going belly-up itself!  I hate to be the negative nancy, but things are going to get much worse before they get better.

January 6, 2011
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Hmm..  Jan 4th has come and gone and 3M is still flying.  No regular news source has seen fit to report on the court proceedings of Jan 5th.

January 7, 2011
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I've been wondering myself.  Haven't heard anything around the airport either.

January 8, 2011
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The hearing was postponed to Jan 7th. Of course, there's no news from that one either.

The Jan 7th hearing was to include a motion from unsecured creditors to convert the case to a Chap 7 (liquidation) bankruptcy.

The news search is a little messy, the Gulfstream racetrack also filed for bankruptcy.  :laugh:

January 9, 2011
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According to the cited reorganization site there were a couple of bidders, one called successful, although the other one is appealing the selection.

Sounds as if the airline will continue operating.  Chapter 7 conversion was NOT approved.

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